Wednesday 26 September 2012

Morning Bells (27 Sept 12) - Sept Expiry


Good Morning Friends,

Opportunities are equal for all but the difference is – successful person gives results & unsuccessful person gives reasons.

So finally we have reached to expiry. It was third consecutive day when Nifty stuck in a narrow range. Y’day bulls tried to pull the Nifty but global market dampened the sentiment.

Well today there’s no thought (on domestic front) because its expiry day and it remains out of various logic.

Yes after expiry now market will look for weakness in global markets and concerns about the EU debt crisis. Ongoing debt crisis in Europe would keep some amount of uncertainty within the markets. Y’day Global market fell down to deep RED. European equity markets are nervous on the simultaneous occurrence of events, they also look for rally in currency too but currency is not participating compared to equity market and that’s a real worry for global investors. Investors should never trust a rally in the stock market unless it is accompanied by a rally in currency. So now we will also look for appreciation in Rs.

Another major lookout is China; Chinese shares fell to their lowest level in more than 43 months on Wednesday amid worries about the health of the world's second largest economy. China’s economic growth is likely to slow for the ninth consecutive quarter in July-September, China’s economic data for August has turned out to be worse than expected and the economy’s prospects remain gloomy, according to Chinese economic experts.

So next stimulus could be from China, Markets are now focusing on whether China will inject more stimulus by way of more infrastructure spending or a rate cut.

MARKET OUTLOOK
Right now market is in No trade zone till it remain in the range 5650-5720.

We are in Sept series expiry, from last 3 sessions neither bull getting success to close above 5700 mark nor bears getting success to close below 5650 mark. This series is quite painful for bears as they tried 2 times to brace the bull run but failed.

Longs were rollover to next series and that’s its giving feeling for a dull expiry, however market will remain volatile say in 50 pts range, if bears get fail in the first half then bull will on run in second half. Most probably expiry seems around 5650-5700 but as told there’s no logic on the day of expiry like this one. If some of you would have remember my reply to Guru Prasad ji 2 days back, it was –

"We can have same session (todays) and can keep Nifty range bound i.e. around or below 57 mark, this way all nearby premium will be reduced aprx 40-50% and then last day it can make a move."

This thought has now come to reality.

NIFTY
PCR come to 0.97 while India Vix fallen down to 16.97. 5800 CE has highest open interest of 86 while 5700CE has second highest OI of 63 Lacs with fresh addition of 14 lac shares. On other side 5600 PE has highest OI 86 lacs with fresh addition of aprx 8 lac shares. If you would have remember my view few days back, I had told you that bulls are cementing 5600 mark and that’s expiry was seem between/around 5650-5700. OI suggest once again it could be a narrow range (50 pts) expiry. Market will remain volatile ahead of expiry.

Resistance has come to Resistance 5678 – 5692 - 5712 and Supports has come 5639 - 5609. Close below 5585 will favour bears. And any close above 5740 will extend current rally to 100 points.

Opening seems mildly negative ahead of expiry pressure. First half seems range bound and under pressure, So it would be better for short position to windup before any wave fade out their gains.

STOCK OUTLOOK -

Banks Banks are on the move.

IT Investors are entering to mid-cap IT industries on expectation that it will outperform in near future while large cap seen some pressure y’day.

OPEN CALLS

Cox&Kings – Y’day made high 146 and I had already suggested y’day to close the call.

So right I don’t have any open call today. New calls in fresh series from Monday.

Today’s MG Mantra
Its expiry, if you have tight grip on stock movement then can test else stay away.

Have a Profitable day – MG

Disclaimer – I have shared my view as per my limited knowledge; please use your own skills before making a wise decision.

54 comments:

  1. Please help me understand SL concept. I am using ICICIDIRECT for my trading.
    For example, if i am holding buy position of 57PE, The current market price 40, and preferred SL at 30.
    In this case, should i place limit order as 30 and Stop loss trigger price as 35. Is it right?.
    My confusion is will it be appeared in best bid offers, as my limit price is very low compared with the current trading price.
    How can place sell order at the maximum price. Can i use the same order, or cancel the SL order and need to put fresh order at higher price when it comes..
    Kindly help me to understand.

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    1. Dear Jaga, didnt get u, there's no way for best sell or buy order, whatever u will mention in ur order will be the price. Like if trigger price is 35 and sell price is 30 then it will square off at 30 only

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    2. MG,

      Small correction here, probably based on the broker. If I place a SL trigger for 35 and Sell at 30, order gets placed at 30 but can get executed between 30-35 e.g. if there is a corresponding Buy orders @ 33. If there are no buy orders between 30-35, the order becomes Pending at 30.

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    3. That is not correct, setting limit price itself mean you are ready to sell it at 30, sometimes it happens due high volatility in stock, support your SL triggered and then when stock reaches to 30 system executed your order and till then if stock goes to 31 then it will execute at 31. else it will execute at 30 itself.

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    4. As i am very much confused with the SL. If you happened to get a chance to look ICICIDIRECT, please see and let me know your opinion.
      Thanks for your support.

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    5. why u confused, when u put order it ask for 2 price, first Trigger price which could be a little higher then actual sell price then it ask for sell price i.e. limit price, you can also put same price for both, that will activate your order immediately. I dont have ICICI a/c. Instead of confusing buy anyone scrip 1 qty set your SL with 50 paisa, that way u will lose hardly 5rs. but u will get idea

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    7. MG,

      That is exactly what I am saying. If I am putting a SL Sell order with trigger at 35 and Sell at 30, it means that the price is higher than 35 at that point. Right? OK, so now if the price falls to 35, my SL order gets converted to a normal Sell order at 30 but what is the chance that price falls from 35 to 30 immediately? Not much if it is a liquid scrip or derivative. Hence, the chances of it being executed at higher than 30 are good.

      MG, please note the following. Let us say in the system, there are only 2 orders to begin with
      1 Buy @ 36 50 qty
      1 Sell @ 37 50 qty
      Now, you put in SL Trig 35 Sell 30 50 qty
      Someone puts another Sell order @ 36
      Order will be matched with buy order @ 36
      Now another Buy order at 34.5 100 qty
      Another Sell Order @ 34.5 50 qty
      The following things will happen -
      1. Buy Sell matched above for 50 qty
      2. Buy order pending qty 50 @ 34.5
      3. Your SL order gets activated at 30.

      The pending Buy and your sell order will now be matched at 34.5 and not 30.

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    8. Dear Sushil, I dont do R&D that much, my FUNDA is so simple, if I want to keep SL then I put like Trigger 31 Limit 30.5 (only difference of .50 or 1Rs becoz that is sufficient time to execute order in NSE. Big difference mean confusion because why you need such big difference in SL and execution. Sell mean sell and buy mean buy.

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    9. MG,

      Sometimes, it is good to keep a bigger range if volatility is high otherwise your SL rate may not be met.

      Overall, you are right, it is always better to keep the smallest range possible.

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  2. HI MG,

    nifty is at 5670 ..then 5800 put should be trading at 130 na ??...why it is at 120 only....

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  3. GM all, catch u after half an hours.

    ON the day of expiry no logic no formula works, its all depend on current volume.

    As suggested, expiry seems GREEN... do dont make any fresh entry either side. Wait will good enogh to save ur money.

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  4. Good Morning MG Sir, Thank you for the Cox and Kings call. Booked profit. Will wait till Monday for ur new list of open calls. Have a great day sir.

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  5. Hello Sir

    Even I am also seeing open interest is being added to Mcdowel-N Options but my trading platform saying Mcdowel-N is in ban period and can not be traded in Futures/Options, how is it possible? Any idea?

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    1. Dear Lakshmi, The increase in OI has to be squared off today itself and OI should not increase at end of day. Generally brokers dont trade on behalf of clients in banned stocks due to compulsion of square off on the same day.

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    2. Hi Mr. Praveen

      Thanks for the reply. Are you saying, if broker permits, we can trade in FnO in banned contracts for intraday but can not carry positions for the following day?

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    3. Please don't trade in banned contracts, it also lead to heavy charges. so probably to avoid that brokers don't allow to fresh order in direction of Ban. e.g if upper circuit then you can't make fresh entry you are only allowed to decrease your position.

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  6. Europe opens in Green,Maybe market will end in the upside today!!!

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    1. Yes already suggested in MB about expiry range. After 2.30 it will gear up for game.

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  7. sir, i read india will miss its fiscal deficit target and borrow more money. if that happen, will it affect the market?

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    1. Definitely... why reform announced in hurry... downgrade of credit rating mean more money to pay interest rate, and more money will be needed to repay... govt. kangal ho chuki he... country is living on risk.

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    2. But today Credit Suisse said that they have no plans of downgrading India!!!

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    3. that I didnt mean... I said that's govt. took steps in hurry and it has given them some breathing space... we are still not out of danger.

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    4. Guru sir,Even if that rating agency didn't downgrade India, missing the target and borrowing more money will be a negative impact rite?

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    5. @Mudra Guru:Sir ur absolutely right,without the reforms,the rating agencies would have downgarded India within the next 3 months.

      @Pradeep:If the government doesnot decrease its fiscal defecit,it will result in rupee devaluation vis a vis the dollar,and when Govt borrows from external agencies thay have to pay back more because of rupee devaluation.Mudra ji correct me if I am wrong in my understanding

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  8. k sir. i also read that meeting will happen 2day or friday. But in some other site i read officials are postponing tat beacuse they dont wan to upset the markets.
    What's ur view on this?
    Also i don know hindi sir. I'm from south india,Tamil nadu.

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    1. NO matter, you can use mix lang. too, I can understand Hindi & Eng. both. But it wont affect the mkt immediately or not hurt much at the moment as investors eying on FDI money...

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  9. Prasadji, how u cud be wrong! good one. That I wanted to say - we will need more money to pay... and same case I have expressed in today's MB about EU & India, mkt rallying but currency is not appreciating in same manner which is big worry, if currency will not participate in rally then rally would remain like Forex trading only.

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    1. There is the other side to the story sirji.If the rupee appreciates too much the export sectors like IT,diamonds and other export sectors would be hit badly,the silver line being that the country's fuel subsidy will reduce as we have to pay less for the imported crude.Ideally the RBI would like to keep rupee in the 40-48 range which will act as a tradeoff vis a vis export driven sectors and crude import though I personally feel that the actual value of Rupee vis a vis dollar should be 35 but like most export oriented economies like Japan,we have devalued our currency show that our exports will shoot up,but it has failed due to rising prices of crude.Also if the govt would not have slept for the last 3 years,we would never have fallen to 55 range.

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  10. Book full profit in Nifty 57PE at 49 (balance lot) bought @28 on Tuesday.

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  11. Dear Mudraji,
    It seems the magic started in NIFTY. Went 40pts approx from day high

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  12. High Risk of losing 400.. reward 1K+... buy 5700 CE below 4 and leave it till expiry, plz dont sell after buy.

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    1. Risk to lose 400. and dont square off the position, it will be automatically squared off by NSE on market close, this way u will save one side brokerage.

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    2. had bought 20 lots at 3.15 :-(

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  13. Mudraji,
    Took 2lots at 4.75rs

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  14. Mudraji,

    Is this a right time to buy TM 290 Oct Call?

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    1. why you all leave TM for few days... its behaving risky, operators dominating it and that's no meaning to take unnessary risk.

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  15. OK Sure, just wanted to check. Definitely will wait

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  16. As suggested repeatedly, NIfty going to expire in suggested range only -

    bulls are cementing 5600 mark and that’s expiry was seem between/around 5650-5700. OI suggest once again it could be a narrow range (50 pts) expiry. Market will remain volatile ahead of expiry.

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  17. Dear Kris - plz always remember, once I suggested qty then do not exceed that limit. 500 is bearable amount but not 3K+...

    Never think to multiple money in a single day else you will be out soon.

    It was purely gambling. So when go for gamble need to follow rules strictly.

    Never mind, better luck next time.

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    1. Agree Sir....tomorrow is new day with new hopes and new trades.

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  18. Prasad ji, those exports accounts much less as compared to our Import and repayment to world bank - single fuel sectors accounts 2Lac crore subsidy where IT exports stands? and where's MNC's profit, FDI are coming to India where their profit will go? and more importantly appreciation in Rs. will mean stable emerging market which will be to attract more n more investors. Think reverse why ppl trade in USD on global front, why they are leading in economy instead of much appreciated $. To my view Strong currency mean low inflation, comfortable investment and export both.

    Thanks for sharing nice information, Normally I dont go to such a deep thought & study as my time limit does not permit. Its like GADHA MAR LIFE FROM MORNING 8 TO LATE NIGHT 1AM

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  19. It always feels nice to exchange thoughts with u,energises the dull life of mine,good night!!!

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    1. Thanks Prasadji, I think revese, I think I am learning a lot when you friends put very different thoughts here. Yes but reverse you I de-energise, dont worry only due to stressed life and odd working hours. GN

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  20. Sir
    I really appreciate you.You have been doing very hard work. You are doing home work,answering,preparing morning bell,and a lot together.
    Thank you very much sir.
    --Madhu

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    1. Thanks Madhu, when it was started I hadn't thought that it will be part of my day to day life and this much people will be part of this forum. After this blog now sometimes I feel exhausted because now its necessary for me to prepare it everyday no matter whether I have time for it or not.

      But I always feel lucky that I got friends like you all and that always energizes me to continue the work.

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  21. Yes sir,
    One more day for a weekend. Waiting for a better tomorrow, By learning from mistakes, wish all get success in making money.
    Good night sir
    -Madhu

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