Saturday 3 November 2012

Weekend Special (3-4 Nov 12)

Playing Card Games V/S Stock Market

Stragne! Yes I found some similarities between two.


Situation 1 - 

Normally we play card for our entertainment, or for fun, or for times pass i.e. we enjoy paying cards in our free time and just for FUN. Games we play like Satti Senter, Dehla Pakad, etc

In stock market such people can do paper trading or trading as game skill at various sites (NSEIndia or MoneyBhai)


This kind of people can trade in cash market with small volume and they can prepare their portfolio in various sector i.e. not in single sector.

Situation 2 -
We play a 9 or 13 card Kitty with cash. In such situation we set price of deal with our cash capacity i.e. the loss we can bear but still it remain manageable.


This kind of people can trade in cash market with medium to high volume and they can prepare their portfolio in various sector i.e. not in single sector.

And sometimes they can try Option trading of low risk, like ICICI or Infy Option call of value of approx 3K which is manageable loss in case if trade goes wrong.

Situation 3 -
3 card game (flush) - People who like high money flow play such game, they earn little to high and even can loss whole money of valet in a single day.

Such kind  of people trade in stock market in Future & Options only. They seek for high money inflow but most of time they lost valet money due to lake of patience and lake of knowledge.

Because first of all they start FNO like a gambling and thinks they will be Bill Gates in a single series and after first mistake they do one after another by chasing their losses.

MORAL

Even winning in 3 card game is an art, some people win it continuously without good cards because they play it carefully with opponents movement or having look to you. Many times you lose instead of having good cards, or make small profit instead of having good cards while they people make good amount.

Same way - Trading in stock market is an Art. There're many operators who play with your sentiment and hit your SLs for both longs & shorts because they know it very well once trade will go in reverse direction impatience people will be out of position.

So traders (not investors) need to learn it from day to day happenings.

First of all you should have control over your GREED & IMPATIENCE. Always look for bigger picture. Always use SL which is a life savior tool in 70-80% cases.

And if you are a trader never forget to book profit at comfortable level or at suggested levels.

Never put your money more than 5-15% in FNO or first decide you LOSS Bearing level and then take risk only for that only.

MY PERSONAL VIEW -

I always suggest Cash Trading which always remain safe, never put your money into unknown small caps, people think by buying 5 or 10 Rs scrip will be one day 1K, it happens but those are very few companies, so before making investment always see company background and for finished products, after that look for that sector development else you will make loss only.

Also remember small scrip movement remain very slow and take more time.

or Swing Trading in FNO if you want to trade in FNO. Look for broader picture and only then enter FNO else most of time it would be fruitful for you.

To learn FNO trade - always try with low risk calls.

Good Luck

13 comments:

  1. We are in the process of providing you all a newer platform - some of you can also help us in other smart way, if you look around you will catch it, Remember just a one effort in a week will be enough dont make it more else it would be trouble for us rather than help.

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  2. Hello sir ,
    good comparison .

    Sir , in las vegas casinos , calculators or electronic instru. are prohibited , as mathematics have cracked the the code in wining BLACK JACK . So , calculated risk is imp.
    But , in stock market nor mathematics nor luck works , its just matter of TIMING .

    Nice way to convey msg sir . Well I think many will get it (some of you can also help us in other smart way, if you look around you will catch).
    Well on my part I do it .

    Thank you.

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  3. Selva Raj is absolutely right - we have found one precious gem - Don. We are in the process of making jewellery, few more gems will make this place one day like a Titan Showroom and people will forget other places.

    Once again I urge to all of you - whenever you find any good opportunity share here, never hesitate whether it will go right or wrong, first thing you need to share, if there would be any problem with that thought me or DON will express my view after all EXPERIENCE COMES ONLY AFTER MISTAKES.

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  4. Nice explanation sir. This message should be read by all novice investors or people who are willing to start trading.
    I wonder from where you get all these words, lines and concepts. You are really a v good thinker as well as writer.
    For my case, I think I fall under section 1 of your Playing card analogy. And will try to jump to section 2 category after few years of experience.

    Once again I appreciate your writing skills.

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  5. Dear MG/DON sir,

    On friday, i entered into ivrcl call-put strategy.
    Bought 42.5call at 1.4 and 40put at 1.

    Since ivrcl is operator driven stock and result expected on 9th of this month. So we can see a wild swing in any direction. This is already known as such a stock which amy easliy move 6-7% any day without any reason. Anyway, for current month we have long expiry, so please share your views on this too, so that other members may get some benefit from this strategy.

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  6. Dear All,
    Selva Raj Sir has got a wonderful idea. Another one is Hindalco 110 PE@1.20 and 120 CE@3.60

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  7. Hello Selva Raj ,
    good strategy , but remember lot size is 4000.
    I also used this tech during infy result and some how saved my capital. If you are making position then better buy 1 lot only on each side.

    See , IVRCL had bad results last quarter so , this quarter we will see good results QoQ basis due to base effect . Also it is on lower side of trading rang. Thus you call will perform rather than put.
    If possible use your capital for another trade till result day.
    Also US election will drive our mkts.
    ESSEL group exited it completely and now there is no major promoter , so we can see some stake buying in it. Exactly when , cant be said.
    I see IVRCL above 48 in a month.

    It is very risky to trade in any counter before results.

    Well this is my view and will be imp to see what MG sir guides.

    Thank you.

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    1. Thanks DON sir.

      I will take care of your words. Also please share that how you come to know that pnb, crompton will post bad results and ivrcl will post good result.

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  8. Dear MG,
    Whats your view on Infosys... I have 300 shares @ 2395.

    Thanks in advance...

    Kallol

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  9. Mudraji, Dishman pharma have wonderful background. it is underestimated. pls check and give a call traded arounded 90-95. above 100 it may have good run. technical good concern for long term purpose. pls rise ur flag.

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  10. of course we were discussing abt fno. pharma stocks are trading like fno only. highly those who can take risk...they can trade Aurobindo pharma. i made 3k profit n short term got @ 120rs sold @150 rs. it may aboard take over.

    past example is wockwardt pharma buy @ 500 sold @ 700. it went 1400rs. shasun pharma buy @60 sold @90. this call with me bajaj capital call centre guys also enjoyed they left job but in contact with me. friendly environment here made to share this. i shared my mail id to u last week. anyway my point is pharmagems are excellent.

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    1. Thanks Venkata - will definitely have look to Dishman and will express my view. Regarding email, I have already sent you a mail, plz check ur spam if you haven't received it yet.

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  11. sure mudraji. thank u. i will come up wth new ideas to our board very soon.

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